Trouble with the Tohatsu
It seems every step I take forward with this boat project thereare things there pushing me back 2 steps. This motor has been an ordeal starting with the idiots from Utica NY. Now that Chris from Onlineoutboards.com finally came through and got me a motor in the mail, out comes another problem…In my last post I talked about the motor not responding to the throttle and idling rather rough. Since then I’ve been making phone calls and writing Emails to everyone in the boating business to try to help me out. My local Tohatsu dealer was pretty much against working on anything he didn’t sell. They did not even offer to take the motor in or spend 5 minutes to take a look at it. On the other hand, he said they would have gladly taken it in if I had bought from him. I sort of understand that attitude. I would like for everyone to buy from me too! But it seems that repairs are just as big of business and anything under warranty would be paid by the manufacturer, why not take them in?
There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the marine warranty repair business. The manufacture doesn’t take an active approach in making sure people who buy their products have a pleasant experience when it comes to servicing it. All of the discretion is taken by the service center and they are obviously taking their own liberties in whom they service and whom they do not. It may appear to them that I would purchase products directly from them next time the opportunity came up to avoid these servicing issues, but to the contrary, their attitudes are completely turning me off from letting them profit from anything I do. It seems masochistic but I just don’t believe in supporting their way of running their busines in principle.
I took my motor to the next closest service center which is in Goleta, CA. Right off the bat the guy on the phone was copping attitude. his name was Dan. “Well, I’m going on vacation for a month and a half starting tomorrow. I get these all the time and I just don’t have the time to do it.” He ranted. “I guess if you can bring it in today I’ll take a look at it.” Well, I did. Took it 3o miles north to some guy who clearly did not want the business. I was not in a position to choose. I wanted someone who knew what the fuck they were doing to see it. When I got there, this old grumpy guy did not seem like he was liking his job. He pissed and moaned like a middle-aged woman getting her hot flashes for the first time. No more than a couple minutes of him sticking my motor in his water tank, he walks away and says “I’m gonna go eat my lunch.” “Okay……. I’ll just… come back in a little bit…” What else does he want me to say? This guy is out of control.
Anyways, long story short, I came back in an hour or so to take some more of this abuse. He agreed to take it in over night to see it tomorrow and let me know if this is someting he can fix. Meanwhile I’ve been talking to Chris from OnlineOutboards.com and he apparently has heard it all from these local guys who have little joy in working on motors ordered from him. They are all grumpy that they lost a sale to someone over the Internet. It is not Chris’ fault that they don’t see the value in putting up an ecommerce site and sell motors themselves. Even when some of them do, they end up doing business like these idiots from Utica, NY.
I am making another trip to Goleta tomorrow to see what abouts with my motor. Chris said that worst case scenario, he will send me a replacement and take mine back. They will even pay for the freight both ways. That is amazing customer service. OnlineOutboards definitely has my business for as long as I’m buying boat motors. More to come…..
April 27th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
Have you forgotten? I told you that the new motor will run very rough during break-in. Mine runs fine now. Follow the break-in procedure just as the manual instructs. Small sailboats don’t need a lot of thrust, so you can still get normal use out of it during the break-in period.
As for throttle problems. I got no answers.
Love the new design. Where’s the link to my site???
April 27th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Wait a second. I see my link. Same place it was before… duh! Sorry
May 12th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
Hi Dan,
Thought I’d write in to you and let you know what I found out with the last engine. I was quite curious to figure out what was going on with it so when it came back I popped it out the box and threw it in our test tank. She ran poorly just as you described with little to no response from the throttle. Of course, since a poor running engine out of the box has occurred maybe 5 times since 1992 when I began selling Tohatsu/Nissan engines I figured it might be the carb. I tore the carb off and took it apart, no trash and no evident machining flaws which I thought I’d find right off. She was acting very sick and backfiring as if it were not burning off the fuel. I scratched my head for a bit and took a look at the spark plug, after seeing all the carbon buildup I decided to check the fire. That is where I discovered the problem. It was getting just enough fire to run but not enough fire to burn the fuel being delivered thus causing it to run poorly and cause the lack of throttle response. I swapped the ignition coil out and she sprang right to life. Problem solved. Labeled reconditioned and already in the hands of a new owner in Texas who got a great deal on it and is very happy. This was my first ignition coil failure out the box ever since 1992 so I wouldn’t be concerned with your engine the least bit. Just thought I’d give you an update on what it was. We appreciated your patience while waiting for the replacement engine. Sorry for the trouble and good luck sailing!
Thx
Chris @ OnlineOutboards.com
May 12th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Hey Chris, thanks for the update. I am glad you were able to find a buyer for this. I am very happy with the new motor I received from you and thank you for being on top of the whole process. I would definitely recommend onlineoutboards.com to anyone looking for a Nissan/Tohatsu motor. Best price and experience ever. I am saying that without being paid to do it!!